Would You Like Hate Speech With That Legislation?
(The links here go to two places. Either the text of our wondrous
Racial and Religious Vilification Act of 2001 and a particularly interesting discussion over at the
MuslimVillage Forum.MV is a forum for muslims in Australia, and while I used to be a regular reader, I just don't have the time to continue; plus I find it difficult going at times, since my views are so totally different to the contributors there.
The thread linked to is a very long, and very interesting read. In more ways than one. I would suggest if you have the time, please read it all, and consider....
no one accepts racism for long in any form on this forum. and the same standards should apply to all. 9. Motive and dominant ground irrelevant
(1) In determining whether a person has contravened section 7 or 8, the
person's motive in engaging in any conduct is irrelevant.
(2) In determining whether a person has contravened section 7 or 8, it is
irrelevant whether or not the race or religious belief or activity of another
person or class of persons is the only or dominant ground for the conduct, so
long as it is a substantial ground.
10. Incorrect assumption as to race or religious belief or activity
In determining whether a person has contravened section 7 or 8, it is
irrelevant* whether or not the person made an assumption about the race or
religious belief or activity of another person or class of persons that was
incorrect at the time that the contravention is alleged to have taken place.
26. Incorrect assumption as to race or religious belief or activity
In determining whether a person has committed an offence against section 24 or
25, it is irrelevant* whether or not the person made an assumption about the
race or religious belief or activity of another person or class of persons
that was incorrect at the time that the offence is alleged to have been
committed.
Let me also just note here for the record of this discussion, that I hold the Jewish state of Israel to be illegimate and without right of existence. Nor is a two-state solution acceptable. Israel, as a state, must be removed from the Islamic lands and Islamic rule must be re-established. This is the Islamic ruling on this matter.looks like those terrorist masters of your zionist ideology have alredy sent their killer chanukah well wishes to provoke palestinians in those occupied territories. talk about celebrating freedom and oppressing others on daily basis for decades
Keep going! you are doing a great job! While your illegal state is beginning its killing machine in Gaza, it is your role to cover up for what they are doing by defending those Nazi-style atrocities.
We ask Allah to rid the world of this cancerous tumor and all its criminal shameless criminal supporters across the world. Israel as a state will never be accepted. Not a single inch of Islamic land will ever be given up . It us our obligation to safeguard the lands and all peoples who live on the land whether they are jew or Muslims.
In due time, you will witness the collapse of Israel as a state, but dont think that Muslims will be as barbaric as the Jews and expell the jews completely and murder them. After justice is had and all land is returned to the rightful owners, jews will live peacefully under the shade of islam just as they have been since the time of the Prophet pbuh.
Was it the muslims who tried to exterminate the jews or was it the Europeans ??? Was the nazi regime run by Muslims ?
Don't bother asking why in your questions, its too late in the game for that. What i have said above is what
we as muslims believe.
you think israel will be destroyed soon? by whom? and how?
iran will not get a chance to use nuclear weapons against israel. there will be no second holocaust!
but, out of curiosity, how many jews do you think will be left alive in palestine after your 'justice' has been done? At the rate the palestinians are being killed right now,
i hope not a single zionist is spared. To hell with being PC, all zionists should be hung by their tongue.
One cannot help but feel this way, considering what is going on. May Allah strengthen our ummah. Ameen.
7. Racial vilification unlawful
(1) A person must not, on the ground of the race of another person or class of
persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred against, serious contempt for,
or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that other person or class of persons.
(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), conduct-
(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions
over a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.
Note Engage in conduct includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish or
transmit statements or other material*.
8. Religious vilification unlawful
(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that other
person or class of persons.
Note Engage in conduct includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish or
transmit statements or other material*.
(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), conduct-
(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions
over a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.*
*emphasis added
Christmas Greetings From The Land Ahead Of Time.
God bless you all, and have a great Christmas.
Jesus is born, and while all may not be right in the world, we still have the promise of salvation.
I'm off to bed before Santa drops in!
Stay safe.
The TMI Files. What's On TV?
One of Magilla's current obsessions is getting on television. I get asked regularly how can she get on tv.
While she's remarkably photogenic both on vid and in stills, and I've got mates in the industry who could no doubt get her some screen time if I wished (not to mention the occasional agent who wants her), I decline to take that path.
I tell her it takes hard work and knowing people. I just don't let her know that I actually know people.
Anyway, talking to the Godmother this evening I mentioned that I do wonder at times how I'd go on the small screen.
Heh.
The bigger question is what would I actually
do on the teev?
Shout at the people sitting on the couch.
LOL! I knew there was a reason I'm not allowed to watch a lot of television these days!
Guillotine, Anyone?
Okay, it's Sunday morning, I'm at work and it's slow today.
So I'm checking out the news, and
this headline jumps out at me.
From the article:
The federal government will unveil plans on Sunday to halve the number of homeless Australians.
Sunday newspapers say Prime Minister Kevin Rudd will launch on Sunday the government's white paper on homelessness, committing $6.1 billion to the first five years of its biggest social reform program.
I really need to get out more, because my first thought was, you going to cut vertically or horizontally?
Further Food For Thought On Gay Marriage.
We've had a bit of a discussion in the
comments down below regarding gay marriage and some of the fallout from the Prop 8 vote in California (also known to some as the PRK - People's Republik of Kalifornia).
Jeremy has been holding down the lefty side of things against MarkL and
MK.Well, to add to this discussion, I came across a
blog post discussing assisted suicide, of all things, which has some relevance to the topic at hand.
Many of the “rights” which are being promulgated and promoted by today’s secular culture are in reality straw men, fine-sounding proxies for demands and desires far less salutary than they sound. Thus, gay marriage is not about gays getting married (hence the lack of enthusiasm among gay rights advocates for civil unions which provide all the legal benefits of marriage), but is instead an effort to destroy traditional heterosexual marriage as normative in culture, thereby removing not merely legal but cultural restraints on all forms of sexual and relational deviancy. The high standard — heterosexual marriage, with its enormous advantages in the raising of children and establishment of societal self-restraint, morality, and relational stability — must be brought down to the lowest common denominator of any two (or more) people getting “married” — with the sole purpose of muting societal condemnation for self-gratifying, dysfunctional and heterodox partnerships. Unrestricted abortion, a.k.a. “freedom of choice”, is about the uncompromising (albeit delusional) demand for unconstrained sexual license without consequences — especially for women, but also for their sperm donors who want no responsibility for their casual hookups: dispose of the unplanned pregnancy, move on to your next “partner”, and you have achieved the perfect “zipless fuck.”
(h/t to
Vanderluen)
The Doc who wrote this excerpt is spot on. We have civil unions, and with the discrimination laws we have in place getting
more restrictive, means that there is ever-growing discrimination against those who believe in what was once considered "normal."
You were born, grew up, got married, had kids.
These days, the getting married part is accepted as being optional, and open to everyone. There was that woman who
married a dolphin."Marriage" as an institution is a religious sacrament in the eyes of most people, but in our secular society we have common law unions, de-facto unions,
caring relationships.And even these caring relationships are being
improved upon as we speak.
This just further erodes the foundations upon which our civilisation is built.
We can talk about rights, and privileges all we like, we can jump up and down and demand respect all we like, but so many people don't seem to get it - respect is earned, not taken, and all the tanties in the world won't get it for you.
Comparative Theology For Primary Students.
Well, it's Christmas time again, and all around us we see the evidence of the festive season - lights, santas, angels, more santas, more lights, the occasional nativity scene, and a remarkable lack of Christianity-themed merchandise.
That seems to be the common trend these days, and I've been busy with the move and also moving at work, so have had neither the time nor the access to comment upon it.
Now, however, it is time to have a little bit of a snark.
A week and a half ago, Magilla asked me about Santa Claus: Mum, do you believe in Santa Claus?
Me: I think he's a very special person, why do you ask?
Magilla: Mrs AT was talking about him today. What's Eid?
Me: What's what?
Magilla: Eid.
Me: (trying not to choke) Eid?
Magilla: Yes, what is it?
Me: It's something that muslims celebrate. They don't have christmas like we do, and they don't believe in Jesus like we do. Has Mrs AT talked about Jesus when you've talked about christmas?
Magilla: Nope.
Mrs AT is the same teacher who taught the kids a bit about Japanese culture. That would be the bit about Japanese people killing and eating whales, which is something I consider thoroughly inappropriate for preppies. We're talking 6yo's for goodness' sake!
The same Mrs AT who had another chat with the kids about Japanese people when a few parents obviously said something about their children's ideas on whaling.
I pointed out to Magilla that eskimos and people from Norway also kill and eat whales, and besides, there are people who think
we're the evil ones for eating all the animals we do.
But, as usual, I'm digressing.
Back to December, and Christmas, and comparative religions.
I've not had the opportunity to speak with Mrs AT, and only have a few more days to do so; with our current Rudderless economy, however, I may not get the opportunity to have this chat.
I am rather interested as to why on earth children, at Christmas time are discussing Eid. Sure, it's a State school, but I would have thought that the birth of the Christ would be worthy of at least a passing mention.
Also, if we're going to talk about what everyone else is doing rather than us Jesus freaks, Magilla's not told me that she's heard of how the Christians co-opted the solstice celebrations to use for the birth of Jesus. She has heard of Hannukah, though, so I guess that's something.
I must ask Mrs AT if she told the kids about the
ritual slaughter that accompanies the Eid celebrations. The ones that have the
RSPCA patrolling the stockyards to ensure that animals aren't being taken for backyard celebrations.
I was going to play a quick game of Let's Compare with images of Eid celebrations vs. Christmas celebrations, but it was a bit too depressing.
We all know the images of Baby Jesus in the manger, of heavily laden tables surrounded by cheery families (like the one we attended yesterday), christmas trees with plenty of presents and lights, and plum pudding.
But when it comes to Eid, it's all too easy to find photos such as
these.I wonder when Mrs AT thinks the kiddies will be mature enough to learn about the
real celebrations?
Maybe by grade 2?
