Friday, March 20, 2009

Chilling Roissy?

I'm a Roissy fan and have been for yonks.

He's not everyone's cup of tea - especially if you've got XX chromosomes. He's got a lot of interesting things to say about Western women, and very little of it is complimentary. That can be a bit difficult to stomach at times, but he and his commenters are always worth a read.

It's challenging, entertaining and most defiantly un-PC.

Well, un-PC up to a point I found recently.

In one recent discussion, commenter Tood had this to say:

This is why, despite the horrors of Islam, I want it to make some inroads into our society. Wusses like tokyojesuspissed would rather be a slave of feminism than have even a bit of Islam in the West, but I think a small does of Islam will do wonders. Feminists will expend a lot of their resources to condemn Islam (eventually, when it actually becomes enough of a threat to them), while Muslims will go an bomb the HQs of some feminists orgs and magazines.

A bit more Islam will do a world of good.[emphasis added]

Now be aware that this particular sentiment is not unusual on anti-women/feminist sites. Duncan has had some remarkable comments along this line over the years.

The problem with Tood's idea, however, is that there is not really any such thing as a "bit" of islam. Muslims rather like the idea of more islam, much as I like the idea of more christianity. The difference being, of course, that as a christian I'm not going to get too upset if you say derogatory things about Jesus - I'm not into being overly judgemental where God is concerned because ultimately it's all in His hands. It's your choice if you believe or not, and I have no power over that.

It makes no sense to fuss on it.

Unfortunately, it doesn't quite work that way with the grand majority of muslims.

Muslims also have a tendency to get somewhat physical if they perceive any sort of slight.

But I digress.... (just for something different, heh)...

Back to Roissy and the comments.

One tokyojesusfist disagreed with Tood about a little bit of islam being good for society, and Tood seemed to have a bit of difficulty with that concept:

“There is no such thing. Islam is a complete regulation of society from top to bottom.”

So are leftism and feminism.

What else?

If the hardcore Muslims decide that it is not the whole ‘West’ that is the problem but the feminist/gay extreme elements of the West that deserve to be violently attacked, that would be good.

Someone needs to go tell Islam exactly what to attack. Bombing a skyscraper or subway is to general.

This led to further discussion of a sort about islam in incredibly vague terms, which I would suggest reading in its entirety.

Other commenters did join in, and while one seemed to switched on to exactly what tokyojesusfist was saying, most others did not.

After a bit more of an exchange, Roissy stepped in and declared that the discussion had gone on for long enough and was henceforth no longer valid for the thread.

While it's his blog and his rules, I find it very interesting that the subject of islam and its effects on society would not be on the list of things not to talk about.

For me, the impact of not being able to enjoy a drink, go see a band, hold hands with a loved one or just hang out with mates of either gender is something I would think important for men who want to go out and meet women. Women who may or may not sleep with them, who they may or may not want to become involved with.

Islam, and leftism and feminism have pretty much formed an alliance, with the latter being tightly entwined and the former parasitically using the advances made by them.

A bit of islam might seem like a good way to go because it can show western men how to keep their women in line, can show women how to be modest and moral, but it's built on false premises.

A religion that regulates your life to the extent that I, as a woman, shouldn't be allowed out on my own, have a standing in the eyes of the sharia court as being half that of a man, and advocates beating me on the fear of disobedience isn't something I'd recommend.

SHAKIR: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

A little bit of islam leads to a lot of islam, as can be seen pretty much anywhere in the world these days.



Not a whole lot of difference.

I think I prefer this:

crossposted at AWH


At 8:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, i agree Nilk, i'm not into any of that, bombing a few feminists hqs, no thanks, i'm no big fan of them, but i don't hate them.

But having said all this, the way the western world is going, we will have a whole lot of islam and it won't be something that we can easily deal with. It's going to be very painful for some and it's going to change our world in ways i don't think many of us can even imagine.

Oh and i prefer that last one too Nilk.

At 8:17 PM, Blogger Chuck said...

I like Roissy.

But I like your ass better in your profile picture.

Check out my blog.

At 8:32 PM, Blogger Nilk said...

Agreed, MK. I just cringe whenever I hear Magilla talk about how after school comes high school and then university. She's not even 7 ffs!

As far as I'm concerned,the best move I ever made was not going to uni, and looking at the marxist swamps they are these days, there's no way I'd let her go to one.

Let her do her learning online at MIT using their open source materials, for example, or let her teach herself via the old textbooks I'm picking up from ebay and amazon.

And Chuck, thanks for the compliment. :)

At 9:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Professional Engineer says,

Followed you over here from Roissy because of your pic. I agree with Chuck on your ass. Your pic is small but I like curvey women.

I have the same feelings concerning Islam. It is instructive to see the alliance between leftism and Islam. One day the right wingers will be called upon to eradicate the real threat in the leftist lives. The one they have harbored. I have no illusions concerning the ruthlessness of the left once this becomes clear. To me it seems inevitable that this day will come but I wonder how long and to what degree this process will occur. I am in America. I am watching Europe for cues. France seems to have reached a limit with this and is trying to deal with this problem in small ways. I also liked your post on rules for raising kids. I have 4 daughters. It is good to get a girls perspective on their relationship with their dad. I want to do a good job.

Keep posting. TTFN!

At 11:37 PM, Blogger Nilk said...

Professional Engineer, looking at your Barry's kowtowing to the Saudis over in London worries me no end.

It's bad enough here at the moment with our PM flitting about the world trying to bignote himself and talk up the chicoms, but the leftards have done possibly irreversible damage to our foundations.

If you're into books, I can't recommend Lee Harris' book The Suicide of Reason highly enough. It's written in such a way that even moonbats can get something out of it, and it explains how we've come to this stage where islam is even a threat when it shouldn't have been.

We've got so much going for us, yet it's all undermined by the cultural marxists running our institutions.

At 8:50 AM, Anonymous Racer X said...

I consider Islam nothing less than a mortal threat to the West. The left is sympathetic to Islam because it is simply another form of totalitarian control over the society, and the left is in love with any type of state control over everything.

There is no middle ground with Islam: you either defeat them or they defeat you and you are forced to "submit" which is what Islam means anyway.

It is a war that has been going on with the once formerly Christian West of nearly 1400 years. It has been dormant for a while but it is starting up again. 9/11 was the reintroduction.

We must never forget 9/11. Never forget innocent people falling to their deaths from the top the World Trade Center because of what those bastard nut cases believed.

They would do that to all of us if they could. The Palestinians were cheering in the streets on that day.

At 6:58 PM, Blogger Nilk said...

Racer X, you're among friends here with those thoughts. :)

It's not like it's difficult to see, but people prefer not to see the difficult things.

Islam is not an easy neighbour, but too many would rather keep the peace.

At 8:05 PM, Anonymous Colonel Neville said...

Dear Nilk: Ah, Islam: I See Lots A Muslims! With Islam it's hard to pick a favourite part. The head or the hands! That's a little Sharia humour.

A Muslim walks into a bar and blows the fucking place sky high. Boom tish!

What did the moderate Muslim say to the Infidel? "Death to the Infidel!"

Seriously, you can see those lucky gals in the full lounge curtain ensemble are just really enjoying life, and having a damn good chuckle to boot. Thus they will all have to die! The floozies.

Allah, I got a million of 'em!

The only thing wrong with Islam is that..."IT'S ALIVE!"

All the best from Colonel Robert Neville blogspot com.


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