Chilling Roissy?I'm a Roissy fan and have been for yonks.
He's not everyone's cup of tea - especially if you've got XX chromosomes. He's got a lot of interesting things to say about Western women, and very little of it is complimentary. That can be a bit difficult to stomach at times, but he and his commenters are always worth a read.
It's challenging, entertaining and most defiantly un-PC.
Well, un-PC up to a point I found recently.
In one recent discussion, commenter Tood had this to say:
This is why, despite the horrors of Islam, I want it to make some inroads into our society. Wusses like tokyojesuspissed would rather be a slave of feminism than have even a bit of Islam in the West, but I think a small does of Islam will do wonders. Feminists will expend a lot of their resources to condemn Islam (eventually, when it actually becomes enough of a threat to them), while Muslims will go an bomb the HQs of some feminists orgs and magazines.
A bit more Islam will do a world of good.[emphasis added]
Now be aware that this particular sentiment is not unusual on anti-women/feminist sites. Duncan has had some remarkable comments along this line over the years.
The problem with Tood's idea, however, is that there is not really any such thing as a "bit" of islam. Muslims rather like the idea of more islam, much as I like the idea of more christianity. The difference being, of course, that as a christian I'm not going to get too upset if you say derogatory things about Jesus - I'm not into being overly judgemental where God is concerned because ultimately it's all in His hands. It's your choice if you believe or not, and I have no power over that.
It makes no sense to fuss on it.
Unfortunately, it doesn't quite work that way with the grand majority of muslims.
Muslims also have a tendency to get somewhat physical if they perceive any sort of slight.
But I digress.... (just for something different, heh)...
Back to Roissy and the comments.
One tokyojesusfist disagreed with Tood about a little bit of islam being good for society, and Tood seemed to have a bit of difficulty with that concept:
“There is no such thing. Islam is a complete regulation of society from top to bottom.”
So are leftism and feminism.
If the hardcore Muslims decide that it is not the whole ‘West’ that is the problem but the feminist/gay extreme elements of the West that deserve to be violently attacked, that would be good.
Someone needs to go tell Islam exactly what to attack. Bombing a skyscraper or subway is to general.
This led to further discussion of a sort about islam in incredibly vague terms, which I would suggest reading in its entirety.
Other commenters did join in, and while one seemed to switched on to exactly what tokyojesusfist was saying, most others did not.
After a bit more of an exchange, Roissy stepped in and declared that the discussion had gone on for long enough and was henceforth no longer valid for the thread.
While it's his blog and his rules, I find it very interesting that the subject of islam and its effects on society would not be on the list of things not to talk about.
For me, the impact of not being able to enjoy a drink, go see a band, hold hands with a loved one or just hang out with mates of either gender is something I would think important for men who want to go out and meet women. Women who may or may not sleep with them, who they may or may not want to become involved with.
Islam, and leftism and feminism have pretty much formed an alliance, with the latter being tightly entwined and the former parasitically using the advances made by them.
A bit of islam might seem like a good way to go because it can show western men how to keep their women in line, can show women how to be modest and moral, but it's built on false premises.
A religion that regulates your life to the extent that I, as a woman, shouldn't be allowed out on my own, have a standing in the eyes of the sharia court as being half that of a man, and advocates beating me on the fear of disobedience isn't something I'd recommend.
SHAKIR: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
A little bit of islam leads to a lot of islam, as can be seen pretty much anywhere in the world these days.
Not a whole lot of difference.
I think I prefer this:
crossposted at AWH